Monday, February 21, 2011

Carol's Fish Gets Fancier

Carol's Gold Fish canvas

While Carol hunted for more of the dark teal in either the discontinued Empress silk or another thread, I’ve held off posting our discussion.  She needed some time to think, after all.  But we are ready to take another stab at working out a plan for her Lillian Chermor Gold Fish canvas.
Carol wrote:
An update for you on the water thread. I've had no luck tracking down additional skeins of the Empress silk. However, I did find another thread in my stash, Baroque Silk from The Pure Palette, that is almost the same color. It's between the #29 and the #30 in the Empress. The texture is a little different, but I probably could live with that.
Hurrah!  I think the color is the most important thing.  Just make sure the amount of Baroque Silk matches the amount of the Cire in your rows of background so that they look equal.  You can ply the Baroque Silk if you wish.
I need some time to think about your ideas here. They are somewhat different from what I was starting to develop in my mind--not really the stitches, but the ideas about threads. I was leaning in the direction of using more of my Brazilian embroidery threads because I love the sheen they create, which seems to be more realistic interpretation of the fish--even though he's not a very realistic fish.
Remember, my ideas are just ideas.  They are things that I would try if I were stitching this canvas but you are not me.  You will have your own ideas.  I'm here to get you thinking about what your vision for this design is and get you moving to achieve it, not tell you what to stitch.  This isn't a stitch guide roadmap after all!
There's no reason you can't use more Brazilian embroidery threads. I'd prefer to spend all day at the dentist myself as they misbehave terribly for me, but this is you stitching, not me.
My other thought was the Vineyard silk with the metallic in it. Maybe that's similar to the Lame braid.
I thought a touch of metallic would look nice on the fish, hence the Silk Lame Braid.  It is very similar to Vineyard Silks Shimmer, but Silk Lame Braid is just a little more tender a thread and a little shinier.  There's no reason you can't use some Vineyard Silks, some Brazilian threads or other threads you happen to have in the right colors.  Maybe you should rummage around in your stash and see what you have before we pick stitches. However, I'm thinking small scale stitches, perhaps some that we can use beads among....
Carol continues:
I'm still thinking about the hot fix crystals. If there is an option for sewing, I think I would rather do that, as it would not require me to buy something I'm not likely to use again. I would really like to find something with a flat back that would allow me to sew it on that would have the same glitter as a crystal. I guess I'll be checking Fire Mountain again...
Good idea.  You may find just the right thing at the Fire Mountain online store.  There are crystal buttons available at some fabric stores, too.  I think I might look for Swarkovski crystals with flat backs without heat activated glue on the flat side.  You could use regular fabric glue for those since you are thinking you will frame this.  They seem to come in a variety of sizes so you might be able to get exactly the right size to cover the fish fin dots.  
We also haven't talked about the bubbles.  Personally I think you might want to get some of the new Kreinik holographic threads in size 16 or higher and couch some of the light blue and some of the purple in a circle, starting in the center and spiraling out, then finishing with a couched circle of black holographic thread.  That will really stand out against the background.

We did talk a little about the bubbles...the discussion at the time was shisha mirrors, covered in tulle. I still like the idea. Maybe skip the tulle and use the holographic thread to sew them on. I also like the idea of the spiral thing, but I would probably not do couching; I would probably use a stem stitch or something similar to give it a little more dimension. I have a picture in my head, but I'm not sure how to describe it.
Then experiment with your ideas until you are able to mimic what you see in your mind’s eye.  Tulle comes in a lot of colors so you’d be able to add a tinge of blue or purple to the shisha mirrors that way if you wish.
I know beaders attach shisha mirrors using stitches and/or beads around the perimeter of the mirror.  That will outline the bubbles which you may or may not want to do.  I found some great instructions on attaching shisha mirrors online.  I thought I’d include them here for Blog’s readers.

I do like the idea with the washer for the eye. Maybe instead of a bead, some sort of dimensional stitch (like the circular Rhodes) could go in the the hole. I'd stitch the Rhodes slightly bigger than the hole in the washer, then place the washer on top of the stitch so the highest part comes through the hole.
As for using a dimensional stitch as the pupil within a washer hole eye, you just have to find a washer with the right size overall dimension and a large enough hole.  Time for a trip to the hardware store!  
I’ve been browsing my ribbon embroidery books looking for ideas for your seaweed and ran across the term “double-sided” ribbon.  This means one of two things--either the ribbon is shiny on both sides or it has one color on one side and a second color on the other.  It occurred to me that your bi-colored seaweed might be done beautifully in double-sided, two colored silk ribbons.  This is what they look like-
Wired ribbons often come in two colors, with the main body of the ribbon one color and the wired edge a second color. By the way, I don’t know anything about this website.  It just happened to have both tulle and double sided ribbons in two colors.
A colored edge wired ribbon is another way to introduce a second color to your seaweed.  The wired ribbon probably will hold its shape a bit better over time.  I’m just guessing here but it might be better to go wired than double-sided. It all depends on the look and of course you can tack down the double-sided, two color ribbon in a matching floss to hold it in place.
Anyway, let me think about these ideas for a little bit and get back to you.
Take your time thinking this all over.  This isn't a quick process.  I know you have been busy hunting for the background thread in the right color and also collecting various items like shisha mirrors, beads, crystals, tulle, and such.  This is a complex project!  It involves lots of unusual materials as well as the more usual choices of threads, colors and stitches.  It is going to look great but it won’t be a quick stitch and our planning will take a bit of work to decide on the right materials, stitches and colors.


Written by Jane/Chilly Hollow Blogging at http://chillyhollownp.blogspot.com and at http://chstitchguides.blogspot.com

8 comments:

palma said...

Hi Jane,
Another thought for the bubbles - Memory thread. You can spiral it and couch it in place. I did this for a canvas and it really looks cool

The Chilly Hollow Needlepoint Adventure said...

Thanks, Palma. I'll mention this to Carol. I think she really likes the idea of shisha mirrors but this is worth considering, especially if she can't find mirrors in two sizes.

Anonymous said...

Jane, love your blog and am enjoying following along with your projects. Please let Carol know that the fish canvas is upside down! If she turns it around it will look much better! Thanks, ElaineManette@earthlink.net

The Chilly Hollow Needlepoint Adventure said...

Elaine, you are the second person who's mentioned this. Is the photo displaying oddly on Blog? It looks to me like the seaweed should be hanging down but I'll rotate the photo and we can decide whether the fish is swimming among dangling seaweed or among weeds growing up from the sandy bottom.

THANKS!

Anonymous said...

Hi everyone--

Regarding the positioning of the canvas, isn't the signature supposed to be on the botton of the canvas? This is the way the fish looks with the signature on the bottom, right side up. If I turn the fish so he's swimming the other direction, the signature is upside down. Also, this is the way Lillian Chermor displays him on her website...

The idea of memory threads for the mirrors is also an interesting idea. I'll have to consider that as well.

Carol

pamelaric said...

Jane - My favorite sparkle to add to a canvas is Swarovski's crystal sequins. They look just like a sequin, with a hole in the center, but are crystal. Ohhhhh the sparkle! They come in 3mm and 4mm sizes and lots of colors. The way I attach to the canvas is with a bead. I come through the canvas and through the crystal sequin. I then go through a matching or contrasting bead and then back through the sequin and the canvas. My favorite go-to vendor is on EBay: Beading in the Rain. If you do a vendor search, it should bring up the store. The sequin category is near the bottom of the very long list of types of Swarovski that they carry. Have done business with him many, many times.
Pamela, Tucson, AZ

The Chilly Hollow Needlepoint Adventure said...

Pamela, thanks for the sequin tip!

Jane, awarding Pamela five enabling points from CH
(excuse me, I have to go to Etsy now....)

Anonymous said...

Crystal sequins! EXACTLY what I need for the yellow spots.

You guys rock.

Thanks, Pamela!

Carol